... It is some kind of big joke to instigate trouble with him and then you guys gang up on him when he gets angry and vote to boot him....
As an impartial/neutral observer in this matter, let me just say that from what I have seen Mr. Butler has pretty much brought his troubles with him to this forum and made his own bed so to speak...
This is not a big joke played on Dave - he caused the trouble, even if some members aggravated the situation by not knowing well enough to leave the crazy uncle in the room alone...
With that said, let me just say that I voted to give him another chance, and still am willing to do that, as I welcome all opinions and believe that an open debate/discussion is a great thing, but Dave seems to not want to discuss some topics like naming crotons for example and just insists that everyone is wrong and that there is no solution to the naming problem...
I welcome Dave's expertise, but not his pettiness when it comes to ideas he doesn't agree with...
And as for his past disputes/misunderstandings/dealings with Jeff, this is not the place for him to publicly air his dirty laundry - that should be taken up in private with his old friend so that they can remain friends or part company, but please leave this croton discussion forum out of it.
And as for cliques,
this forum is open to the public and the members strike me as a friendly bunch overall so that clique crap dog don't hunt as they say...
However, this
is a croton clique and all
friendly croton aficionados are welcome.
Furthermore, Croton Society bashing, as opposed to discussing ideas for and about the Society, has no place here - if someone just wants to tear it down please do that someplace else.
Or better yet join the Society and make some positive contributions.
And AFAIK the Croton Society did not make the poll about Dave, that was done by the guy that runs this board here - I never saw that the poll was a Croton Society thing...
I would like to see the croton wiki here become an official
Codiaeum Registry recognized internationally, and be
the place to register new crotons and to check the history and validity of croton names.
I would welcome Dave's participation here - I think he could make some valuable contributions, even if they are sometimes difficult to read and follow...