Mike, Paul's Pelagodoxa is pretty much in the open just north of his driveway and at 10 feet tall or so, would be pretty tough to protect. Aside from irrigation, his garden is pretty much on its own. The Pely took a beating but is alive and well. Like I said, my 4 foot tall potted one accidentally stayed out for a few mid 30's last December and got some tip damage only. It was inside for the really bad stuff in January 2010. Like Joey palms, I think this one can take down to near freezing without much problem but anything below that is lethal. There's a whole list of tropical palms I grow in containers that can handle the 30's with minor damage but a few degrees lower would do them in completely. The size of Paul's Pelagodoxa may also be helping it limp through the cold snaps we've had. He mentioned to me earlier this year that the palm had sent out an inflourescence. Perhaps this was cold induced. I doubt if a smaller one like mine would have survived the January 2010 cold at his place.