Here are two Stoplights. The first one (in the ground 6 years) gets morning sun and good irrigation, but it's on the east side of the garden at the end of a north-south wind tunnel between our house and our neighbor's. The second one (in the ground 3 years) gets midday sun and is on the north side of the house. Both are under considerable shade. The third picture is Duke of Windsor, a common sport off Stoplight, that's in deep shade on the south side of the garden. No direct sunlight. The last one is Magnificent, right next to the Duke of Windsor. I bought this from Loews last year and it survived the winter. But it only gets indirect sunlight and only at midday.