I have a batch of seedlings about 2 1/2 yrs old I thought I'd call bakers dozen. There are 15 plants here and I've given a couple away. The parents are a cross I made (jungle queen by chili pan) x eleanor fischler. They have a remarkable resemblance to one another and are coloring up nicely, although may water is leaving a deposit on the leaves and only the new leaves are shiny and bright. I watered down the leaves before taking pictures to bring out some brightness. It's amazing how fast some are and others slow. Anyway here's a pic...Chris